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	Comments on: The Rabbis Actually Agreed with Jesus about &#8220;Corban&#8221;	</title>
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		By: Lois Tverberg		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lois Tverberg]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 May 2022 19:36:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://ourrabbijesus.com/articles/the-soup-nazi-corban-and-jesus/#comment-669117&quot;&gt;Taylor&lt;/a&gt;.

Taylor, in Nedarim 3:2 this is just a fictional situation, not an exclusive list of all those not forbidden to eat figs. It could have just as well been, &quot;Suppose his mother and sisters were found in the crowd...&quot; The point is that they are family, not that the ruling only pertains only to male family members.  

Besides, as I said above, the quote of the commandment actually is in Nedarim 9:1 - R. Eliezer says, “They unloose a vow for a person by [reference to] the honor of his father or mother.”]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://ourrabbijesus.com/articles/the-soup-nazi-corban-and-jesus/#comment-669117">Taylor</a>.</p>
<p>Taylor, in Nedarim 3:2 this is just a fictional situation, not an exclusive list of all those not forbidden to eat figs. It could have just as well been, &#8220;Suppose his mother and sisters were found in the crowd&#8230;&#8221; The point is that they are family, not that the ruling only pertains only to male family members.  </p>
<p>Besides, as I said above, the quote of the commandment actually is in Nedarim 9:1 &#8211; R. Eliezer says, “They unloose a vow for a person by [reference to] the honor of his father or mother.”</p>
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		By: Taylor		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 16 May 2022 21:02:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Mishnah Nedarim 3:2 leaves out the mother though. Why did Shammai and his disciples leave out the mother? The Mishnah only includes &quot;father and brother&quot;. They don&#039;t include &quot;family&quot; or &quot;family member&quot; either. The verse in the Gospel says &quot;father or mother&quot;. Mishnah Nedarim 3:1-2 is neglecting the mother.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mishnah Nedarim 3:2 leaves out the mother though. Why did Shammai and his disciples leave out the mother? The Mishnah only includes &#8220;father and brother&#8221;. They don&#8217;t include &#8220;family&#8221; or &#8220;family member&#8221; either. The verse in the Gospel says &#8220;father or mother&#8221;. Mishnah Nedarim 3:1-2 is neglecting the mother.</p>
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		By: Lois Tverberg		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lois Tverberg]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 May 2022 01:04:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://ourrabbijesus.com/articles/the-soup-nazi-corban-and-jesus/#comment-666083&quot;&gt;David&lt;/a&gt;.

It&#039;s possible that Jesus actually influenced Jewish thought of his day and that what we read in the Mishnah shows that influence.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://ourrabbijesus.com/articles/the-soup-nazi-corban-and-jesus/#comment-666083">David</a>.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s possible that Jesus actually influenced Jewish thought of his day and that what we read in the Mishnah shows that influence.</p>
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		By: David		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Aug 2021 13:53:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thank you.  But an underlying point that needs to be made is that, since the new testament writers would certainly have known Jewish law - why does the account seem to only tell one side of the story? It seems like it is designed primarily to disparage the Pharisees.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you.  But an underlying point that needs to be made is that, since the new testament writers would certainly have known Jewish law &#8211; why does the account seem to only tell one side of the story? It seems like it is designed primarily to disparage the Pharisees.</p>
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		By: Lois Tverberg		</title>
		<link>https://ourrabbijesus.com/articles/the-soup-nazi-corban-and-jesus/#comment-665895</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lois Tverberg]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jul 2021 23:27:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://ourrabbijesus.com/articles/the-soup-nazi-corban-and-jesus/#comment-665835&quot;&gt;David&lt;/a&gt;.

Good answer, David. Thanks.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://ourrabbijesus.com/articles/the-soup-nazi-corban-and-jesus/#comment-665835">David</a>.</p>
<p>Good answer, David. Thanks.</p>
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		By: David		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jul 2021 23:53:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://ourrabbijesus.com/articles/the-soup-nazi-corban-and-jesus/#comment-552751&quot;&gt;Emily VDW&lt;/a&gt;.

Corban means dedicated and is part of halacha (Jewish law).  It is more than a curse.  It was a form of a legal, biding vow in which a person pledged something for G-d.  Once the pledge was made - whatever was pledged, money, a animal fit for sacrifice etc. - could not be used for any other purpose.  The discussions in Talmud deal with rash or harmful vows.  If they were rash or harmful, they could, through a court, be annulled.  So the examples given here are demonstrating that a vow that would harm family members is not valid.  But if the person made it, it would still have to be legally annulled.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://ourrabbijesus.com/articles/the-soup-nazi-corban-and-jesus/#comment-552751">Emily VDW</a>.</p>
<p>Corban means dedicated and is part of halacha (Jewish law).  It is more than a curse.  It was a form of a legal, biding vow in which a person pledged something for G-d.  Once the pledge was made &#8211; whatever was pledged, money, a animal fit for sacrifice etc. &#8211; could not be used for any other purpose.  The discussions in Talmud deal with rash or harmful vows.  If they were rash or harmful, they could, through a court, be annulled.  So the examples given here are demonstrating that a vow that would harm family members is not valid.  But if the person made it, it would still have to be legally annulled.</p>
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		By: Emily VDW		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Emily VDW]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Apr 2016 11:31:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thank you for writing this! I find it very helpful! Now it makes sense why Jesus would call it “cursing” one’s parents; in context, a desire to curse someone would truly be the purpose for picking that phrase.

Was the word “Corban” always used this way?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for writing this! I find it very helpful! Now it makes sense why Jesus would call it “cursing” one’s parents; in context, a desire to curse someone would truly be the purpose for picking that phrase.</p>
<p>Was the word “Corban” always used this way?</p>
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		By: Paul Arthur		</title>
		<link>https://ourrabbijesus.com/articles/the-soup-nazi-corban-and-jesus/#comment-368319</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Paul Arthur]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2014 14:41:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Dear Pastor,

I would like to send us your study materials about the tracts because I have orphans club in my country with 20 children.Our postal address following,

Paul orphanage and welfare club,
p.o.box 1195
Cape Coast,
Ghana West African.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Pastor,</p>
<p>I would like to send us your study materials about the tracts because I have orphans club in my country with 20 children.Our postal address following,</p>
<p>Paul orphanage and welfare club,<br />
p.o.box 1195<br />
Cape Coast,<br />
Ghana West African.</p>
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